Is it true that SKY has bought up the rights to HD bandwidth on Satellite, rendering it impossible for Freeview to broadcast HD to non-SKY customers?

Surely it is unethical for SKY to broadcast TVNZ One,Two and three HD content but lock it out for SKY customers only?

IT leads me to wonder if SKY have somehow negotiated an arrangement so that the Satellite channels are grouped.

Without a 2tuner box or MySky, it is not possible to record a programme and watch another.

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There are no plans at this stage to broadcast in HD via the satellite platform. This is due to bandwidth limitations and cost - HD requires a much larger amount of bandwidth and SKY TV has leased the majority of the suitable bandwidth on the Optus D1 satellite so there is not enough room for Freeview broadcasters to transmit HD.

If, in future years, Freeview broadcasters did manage to secure additional bandwidth, viewers would need to replace their current satellite receiver with one that is capable of decoding an HD signal (much like SKY subscribers need to rent a new HD receiver for their HD service).

However Freeview have begun negotiations with broadcasters and manufactures to get ready for the HD flick: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/82441676/HD-version-of-F... 

Regards, Josh

Is it known how much bandwidth SKY TV are using relative that available to them through their lease?

Not too sure if this is publicly  available, Kordia may have some information as I think they help with uplinking however the Satellite is owned by Optus Australia  so either of those two may be able to help you out

Cheers, Josh

Steven Fish said:

Is it known how much bandwidth SKY TV are using relative that available to them through their lease?

They pay for 7 transponders and that is what they use.

2 of the Trasponder NZ10 and NZ9 are using DVB S2 format for Sky's HD channels

Wouldn't it be great if Sky could broadcast the Freeview HD channels unencrypted so those with HD capable receivers could view them.

But as far as I know the Sky boxes are incapable of decoding unencrypted content so that is why they have to rebroadcast all the Freeview channels in encrypted format and that takes up lots of satellite bandwidth.

Isn't it incredible in this day and age that a Sky box cannot decode unencrypted content.

I guess that is to be expected when the encryption that Sky uses was designed by an Israeli secret service employee and Richard Murdoch had lots of shares in that company. Now it has been brought by Cisco.

It is always the end users that loose out.

Alan


 Sky decoders can play free to air unencrypted broadcasts. How do you think they get the freeview channels? they tune into the Freeview transponder.

The issue of 1,2,3 HD being encrypted is a Sky and TVNZ and Mediaworks contract issue.

I would expect them to make changes when it comes up for renewing.

Of course Sky boxes decode unencrypted signals. They are just an HD capable box (DVB S2) that tunes all signals. Only their pay to view (subscriber) channels are encrypted and they are  decoded by use of the subscribers plug in card. How do you think we watch Prime, bravo etc on a Sky box. They are unencrypted. I think you'll find that the HD channels aren't available free to air because Sky has exclusive rights to them and all the current Freeview approved stellite boxes aren't HD capable. Hopefully that will change sometime soon.

Alan Douglas said:

But as far as I know the Sky boxes are incapable of decoding unencrypted content so that is why they have to rebroadcast all the Freeview channels in encrypted format and that takes up lots of satellite bandwidth.

Isn't it incredible in this day and age that a Sky box cannot decode unencrypted content.


Alan

Thanks Biggles,

I admit it, I was wrong. I thought that Sky rebroadcast all the standard channels for its customers.

So all we have to do is convince them to turn off encryption for the HD Freeview channels.

That should be easy....  Hmmmmm!

Alan

Yeah right! Like that's going to happen soon!

They want $10 per month extra for an HD Ticket to watch their own HD channels but I believe not for the Freeview HD channels (TV1,2,3) on their platform. I just don't understand why they bother to encrypt those HD channels when their own subscribers don't need the HD ticket to watch them. Not being able to get HD Satellite is a real pain for those in Satellite only Freeview areas.

Alan Douglas said:


So all we have to do is convince them to turn off encryption for the HD Freeview channels.

That should be easy....  Hmmmmm!

Alan

on 12358 6 hd channels

tv 1,2,3 sm extra,trackside 2,sm greats

cost of satellite space will be why they are encrypted unless tvnz and mediaworks would like to cover the cost

Willis there is also Prime Hd on sky

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